Why don’t Ryzen gaming laptops fall in love with the same GPU that their Intel-based rivals are? The same week that Alienware updated its M17 and Area 51m with the GeForce RTX 2080 Super GPU, and Gigabyte launched its Aorus 15P with its 10th-gen Intel CPU and GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q aimed at professional gamers Introduced, Ryzen vacated, with no one there. New gaming laptop faster than anything GeForce RTX 2060.
Even HP’s recently released Ojen-Omen 15 can’t get a break. The version of the Omen 15 with the 8-core Ryzen 7 4800H currently features the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, with the RTX 2060 Max-Q variant on the way. However, the Intel version comes with 6-core Core i7-10750H and GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q.
The situation is so catastrophic that reputed media outlets such as NotebookChat.net have openly wondered where the high-end GPU-based laptop laptops are. Certainly, the secret is also that conspiracy theories have been spawned by those who imagine that Intel’s real or imaginary hands are at work.
“The fact that not a single OEM gives a high-end Ryzen laptop makes me feel like OEMs are being bribed by Intel or something similar,” one Redditor speculated in the AMD subredit. “I don’t want to pay Intel money, but if there isn’t a single option for high-end Raigen laptops, I won’t have a choice.”
Not enough PCIe Ryzen 4000?
Igorslab.de (the successor to Tom’s Hardware Germany) actually throws out a theory that Ryzens’ lack with high-end GPUs can only be caused by AMD’s mobile chip. According to laptop manufacturers who talked about it, Igorslab.de says, only eight-lane access to the Ryzen 4000 PCIe 3.0 was seen as too much of a penalty. “A gaming laptop with a more powerful GeForce RTX will already have to contend with unnecessary limitations today,” Igor Valosek said.
While Volosec makes a good point, that hasn’t stopped other laptop manufacturers from making similar design choices on purpose, and with higher-powered hardware. For example, the core area of Alienware is 51 meters, a desktop Core i9 and a GeForce RTX 2080. While that chip has 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0, Alienware intentionally uses half of it for the amplifier expansion port. Asked what Alienware executives told PCWorld about its research, and independent research, it has long been revealed that PCI bandwidth was not a limiting factor in today’s games.
So if it is not a technical reason, then it must be deep force? PCWorld asked for comment for Nvidia, but the company was Mum.
Nice burn, intel
However, Intel executives instinctively voluntarily said that maybe, just maybe, the core is better, and that’s why it comes with a higher-end GPU.
An Intel spokesperson said, “We cannot comment on every decision by our OEM partner.” “We believe it is important for the system to be designed for most of the combined configurations and to have a balanced level of performance in the CPU and GPU to avoid any bottlenecks.”
The company has recently been showing numbers to vendors that its high clock speed still matters more in most games, including the pure thread count Ryzen. Intel officials further suggested that perhaps having more PCIe is better. “Intel 10th Gen H-Series processors deliver the highest mobile processor frequencies to unlock maximum gaming capability – and the platform features desktop-like features with 40 Gen 3 PCIe lanes that fully leverage the highest-end GPU Lifting, as well as capacity RAID support enthusiasts such as SSD (up to 4) support favorites, so gamers can enjoy the most of the available FPS experience. ”
Again, we don’t think GPU bandwidth is necessarily played here, but Solid Burn, Intel.
So what exactly is going on?
PCWorld reached out to several industry sources, none of which were willing to be named. In any case, many said that this is not a cry for conspiracy and technical shortcomings.
Two of the anonymous laptop manufacturers, in fact, told PCWorld that it’s just time. This epidemic has been a busy year with off-the-charts demand for temporarily closed factories, laptops and new product launches. PCworld was told to fire, it has to be timed and the situation will change.
PCWorld already knew the AMD side of the story, given by chief architect Frank Azor when he visited The Full Nord in May. In 48 minutes in the Azor interview Ryzen addresses the lack of high-end GPU in laptops.
Azor — who previously worked at Alienware and Dell — attributed it to time. Azor said laptop manufacturers have lower budgets. When Ryzen 4000 was on the roadmap, some were going to place big bets on CPUs that had not gone well before. AMD’s reputation among gamers and enthusiasts has improved, with many laptop customers unwilling to bet on it.
The first Raizen 4000 laptop has changed that perception, Azor said, but it still takes time to design, test and manufacture new products.