Underwood elaborated extensively on his former co-host’s departure on Three different episodes of your podcast.
After staying quiet in the press as controversy swept through “The Talk,” Sheryl Underwood finally spoke about Sharon Osbourne’s departure from the morning show, and Osbourne was quick to respond to one of her claims.
ICYMI: Underwood questioned Osbourne about his defense of Piers Morgan on “The Talk” last month, after he attacked Meghan Markle after his explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey. The exchange between Osbourne and Underwood exploded, as Underwood said that some saw Morgan’s attacks on Markle as racist, while Osbourne demanded evidence and expressed concern that he appeared racist for defending him. The show was on hiatus, an internal investigation was conducted and Osbourne “decided to leave.”
“I felt like, because there was an investigation, shut up,” Underwood said, explaining his initial silence on his podcast, in three episodes titled “Sharon Walks Away.” She added: “I want to be clear, I have no power to hire, I have no power to fire.”
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While Osbourne has said she was “shocked” by the discussion, Underwood said that, as the moderator that day, none of her questions came from executives or producers. She said the only input she received from the producers was help to shape the questions in a way that guides the conversation and does not appear combative.
“By talking about what I wanted to ask in a way that was not perceived as an attack, I was already thinking, I thought this was going to go to the left. Inside, I thought this was going to go to the left,” he explained. “So I wanted to put it in the right order, be very calm, but there were some people who criticized me for that: ‘Why do you give a shit about someone’s feelings? -It’s about yours. It’s not about the reaction of the person, it’s about me and who I’m trying to evolve and mature to be. “
Underwood said he hasn’t spoken to Osbourne since their last day on set together. “I’ve been looking through my phone,” she added, as her co-hosts said Sharon claimed she got close. She then scrolled back through her on-air call log and failed to correct her co-hosts when they called Sharon a “liar.” Later in the podcast, Underwood vaguely said that he received text messages from someone – without saying who – who said: “I understand what you’re going through and I know you need your space.”
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In an effort to prove that he did indeed reach out to Underwood, Osbourne leaked his text messages to his former co-host on the DailyMail on Tuesday. “Not only did I send these messages to Sheryl, but I apologized to her in person in her dressing room,” he told the publication. “Why are you saying I never apologized Sheryl? What are you trying to do to me? Why are you trying to destroy my reputation? Just be honest. Tell me.”
In texts published in DailyMail, Osbourne wrote that her “heart is heavy” and that she was “deeply saddened” by their altercation. “I’m sorry to tell you to fuck off during the break, I’m sorry I accused you of pretending to cry while we were live and I’m sorry I lost my temper with you,” he continued. Osbourne reportedly followed up a couple of days later and said that while he understood Sheryl needed space, he hoped they could talk or help Underwood “heal”.
She allegedly followed up with two more text messages, but they all went unanswered. TooFab has reached out to the Underwood representative for additional comment.
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During his podcast, Underwood added that he had not heard “personally” from any other former co-hosts afterward, even though Leah Remini and Holly Robinson Peete had spoken out with their own claims about Osbourne in the days following the incident.
Sheryl said that she and Sharon were “fast friends” once Underwood joined the show, and claimed that she had been warned about her co-host before taking the job. “I heard things and I thought, ‘They have nothing to do with me,'” he said. “My thing is, I’m going to get to know you first. I had heard things and received phone calls about this and that and everything, so what I said to those people, I said, ‘Thanks for the information. ‘Because listen, in this business you have all kinds of personalities, right? “
Underwood added that he felt a “strange feeling” about how Sharon initially apologized, as her first post did not directly mention Sheryl. Osbourne addressed Underwood specifically in follow-up interviews.
“A lot of people said ‘Sharon Osbourne wasn’t your friend.’ I can see the way people feel like this. I can see that, “Underwood continued.” A lot of people thought, who would do that? What friend would do that? “
“I still love the Osbournes, from what I have known about them. I know nothing more than what I have lived with them, and this that has happened disappoints me,” he added. “And maybe people don’t want to hear me say, ‘I still love the Osbournes.’ I’m not saying I liked being treated the way I was treated. I’m very disappointed. And I’m just trying to navigate my feelings about it because it was a trauma. “
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After saying she couldn’t “fight” on the air because she knew she would be painted as “the angry black woman,” Underwood said the incident allowed her to show how she has grown and matured.
“A lot of people say why would I be grateful to be verbally racially attacked? I’d say one maybe, two people caught when I said I had matured. I never got a chance to prove that,” she explained. “I’ve never had a chance to demonstrate in a demonstrative way that I had matured because everyone else’s expectation of me was anger, or immaturity or reaction to any attack with profane language. Now you hear me say when you want to get defensive and attack, put your weapon down because then you can think clearly. Open your fists. Don’t rush to defend. “
“The disappointment was not just what happened that day, but every interview, every statement, every leak after the fact that I had to show, did maturity hold?” she added. “He could have reacted to everything in the media, right? Every lie, every leak, every misrepresentation.”
About Morgan himself, Underwood said he believes he has said and done things that “people might perceive as racist” and, whether he is or not, he did so in a way that has consequences. “You were dealing with him, people liked him, the polarization cornered you and now you want to present yourself as the victim,” he added. “Why are you now the victim, as opposed to those who are really victimized?”
He also said that he hopes people will continue to watch “The Talk,” saying he wants viewers to “pray for our evolution.”
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