MSNBC host Chris Hayes welcomed former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page on Monday night by offering “congratulations on not being indicted.”
“Today, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was indicted. And we learn that former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, who pled guilty to lying to the FBI, has been cooperating with the Mueller investigation,” Hayes said to kick off the second half of “All In with Chris Hayes.”
“Just last Friday, former trump campaign adviser Carter Page met behind closed doors with [Senate] Intelligence Committee staff for more than five hours. Carter Page joins me now. How you, Carter?” Hayes asked.
“Great to see you. I’m great,” Page replied.
“Congratulations on not being indicted,” Hayes said.
“Of course not,” Page chuckled.
Hayes went at it with Page over Papadopoulos, whom Carter dismissed as part of a large group of people who had joined the campaign once it became apparent Trump was going to capture the party nomination in the spring of 2016.
Papadopoulos, 30, was arrested in July and accused of lying to the FBI about his conversations with a foreign professor who informed him that the Russians had thousands of emails containing information that could be used against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary ClintonHillary Diane Rodham ClintonBlumenthal: Trump-tied data firm reaching out to WikiLeaks ‘significant’ Tillerson eliminates key State Department sanctions office: report Intel Dem: What’s in dossier more important than who paid for it MORE. He pleaded guilty in early October, according to court filings unsealed on Monday.
The charges are a result of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
“Were you guys on email chains together, you and Papadopoulos?” Hayes asked.
“Look, there is a lot of emails all over the place when you’re in a campaign,” replied Page.
“Yes or no. Were you on email chains with Papadopoulos?” the host pressed.
“Probably a few, yeah,” Page said.
“Were you on email chains about Russia?” Hayes continued.
“It may have come up time and time again. There is nothing major, yeah,” Page conceded.
“Well, I mean, nothing major. It was enough for him to lie to federal investigators about and then plead guilty to that he was having an intermediary come to him and say ‘You should come to London and talk to someone who has Hillary Clinton’s emails,'” Hayes noted.
Page would spend most of the remainder of the interview denying any campaign role in colluding with the Russians or Papadopoulos trying to arrange a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and then-candidate Trump.
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said during a Monday White House press briefing that she would “hardly call [Papadopoulos] some sort of regular adviser or, as you want to push, that he is like a senior member of the staff. He was not paid by the campaign.”