Kaye Oyegun and Jennifer C. Holmes’s interview with us


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this is us Co-EP, writer and episode director K O Oyegun; Jennifer C. As Holmes L’Oreal this is us App. 506, “Birth Mother”
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This is Randall PearsonMother is born this is Laurel.

We first meet young Laurel DuBois (portrayed by Jennifer C. Holmes), episode 3 in season 1, titled “Kelly”. Through a series of strategically irritable flashbacks, we learn a little more about her character, mostly of Randall’s (Sterling K. Brown) birth father William (portrayed at various stages by Germael Nakia and Ronhus Jones) Through perspective.

Warning: spoiler ahead for episode 506, “Birth Mother”

Cut to the sixth episode of the fifth season, titled “Birth Mother”, where viewers are taken on an emotional journey with Randall (Sterling K. Brown) and Beth (Susan Kelechi Watson). He is believed to have died when he was actually alive through a drug overdose. And what a life she lived.

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In this episode, we know Laurel as “the woman who was not drowning” through one of the great loves of her life that is soft-spoken and gentle (Vian Hong). On Moments, A young Hai (Ken Liu) attempts to save her from drowning in the lake (quite Meeting – dating!), We realized that she was indeed surrendering – letting go of the pain and heaviness that burdened her. In return, she was Walk… she was free.

From the series of her debutant-approved Press-n-Curl to the “reckless black girl” who eventually blossoms into Aunt Mae’s (Lisa Gay Hamilton) farmhouse, “Birth Mother” gives us a rich amazement in Laurel’s backstory. Although Laurel’s intelligence eventually becomes a pot for Randall to let go of her own inner demons (as well as the blood connection she is ultimately seeking), this episode allows her to be a fully realized human is.

Surprisingly the phone conversation on Tuesday morning led to the airing of the episode, this is us Co-executive producer and writer Kaye Oyegun (who is Co-authored This episode with Ebony Freeman and made her TV directorial debut via NBC Lady ahead Program) explained that at the end of the laurel the depth shows why it was a slow burn.

Oyegun (who not only drew from elements of his own life to write and direct this episode, you want to allow it to be made. But said “soul” to him) The root. “[If we had] After being told about Laurel very quickly, we have to move back Lots of things for this episode. But, because we were so empty with him, it also becomes complete and surprising because it really changes the way people see him. “

Oygun’s grand writing is fully complemented by Holmes’ portrayal of young Laurel (an older Laurel portrayed by Angela Gibbs). When you kill the two of them together, you have a recipe that will undoubtedly make you fall in love with it. Holmes also joined our phone conversation, which ended the lot Black girl love, light And energy, that it Took me for the remainder of my busy day. In “Birth Mother” we get a detailed account of Laurel’s struggles – including forbidden love, the loss of her beloved brother, drug abuse, miscarriage, and, ultimately, her son never growing up.

“I had a journal and I did a journal as Laurel,” Holmes told The root, A format in which, with prayer, she says it is easy for her not to judge Laurel. “I wrote about‘ my ’relationship with my parents and मेरे my‘ brother and ‘our’ relationship and aunt’s mother’s death. So, it made me deeper into his soul. I took from my life, like a relationship with my father, the ups and downs that … you know, the things I agree with my father and [there’s] Many things I do not agree with, so that her relationship with Laurel and her father has a correlation. When it was found for drug use, Kay told me [Laurel’s] Medication use was motivated by grief. “

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this is us, Episode 506: “Birth Mother”
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In “Birth Mother”, we not only see Laurel–We listen his. As Aunt Mae inspired her to “make it all out” in one glorious moment, Laurel’s blood-curdling scream became an excellent release for her character. While watching, I sobbed for him, realizing this was also a release for me. Aside from the usual burden black women walk in this world, it somehow serves as a timely release of what we all need in the past year (after some) this A single, so far).

In our conversation, Oyegun revealed that day Philando Castile He was killed, found a private room at work and cried, then went about his day engrossed in everyday life – as we do, especially as black workers who have constant racial trauma. Although this is us The environment was always related to difficult conversations (some Oyegun credits to show the leadership of creator Dan Fogelman), it took things to another level last year, which it had never been before. It wasn’t really until last year that he opened the room to his fellow writers about this experience, an experience he called “sobering” for whom there was no idea. In the same spirit, I wanted to know if Oygun and Holmes have since “Let it get it out” in its own ways.

Oygun said, “This episode first came in at 73 minutes and then was cut into the flesh of a 42-minute network TV show, I think it was a feat.” “All this is to say that I think the way I go is in the sense that I love God and he told me Give him my hand because his name is prakash. And so I give it. To whom I entrust it. To whom do I submit it? “

Behind the Scenes, Episode 506: Behind the scenes this is us, Episode 506: “Birth Mother”
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He said, “Everything we went through last year and everything our ancestors did … everything … I took all that [in], ”Said Holmes. “[A]All that frustration, sorrow and everything that I personally have gone through … that I know [such as] My relatives and strangers …. I already knew that I was screaming for them. I was letting it go for them as well.

There is a healthy trust and mutual respect between Oygun and Holmes that is clearly reflected onscreen – the way Holmes gives Laurel so much of himself (also note, at the end of the episode exposing Brown’s sarcasm and For the rebirth of the event). It is readily apparent that Oyegun created a safe space for his actors on the set.

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Behind the scenes this is us, Episode 506: “Birth Mother”
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“I’m just going to compare my experiences with what I had with Kay to everyone else, because that made it so special,” Holmes said. “She listens. Sometimes, when I wasn’t able to go there [emotionally within a scene], She would come to me and was so intimate and she would talk to me. And the moment he spoke, the feelings dawned on me. “

At the end of our call – which had become more of an amazing black girl communal love affair than an interview- Oygun put a message in his rising star Holmes that I think every black girl should be involved and it should resonate with them.

“God has blessed both of your hands and you have been gifted,” she said.

Actually. God bless the woman who was not drowning.

this is us Airs on Tuesdays at 9 pm ET NBC.

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