Gundlach says that America may be different. Here’s how he would invest for it.


Doubleline Capital CEO Jeffrey Gundlach in 2017 (Photo by Matt Winkelmeier / Getty Images)

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Donald Trump is most likely to win re-election, but no matter the outcome of the presidential race, the US may find itself on Monday in unrest and sharp grip in more than one country, noted investor Jeffrey Gundlach said on Monday.

Speaking on a webcast hosted by Rosenberg Research by its founder David Rosenberg, Gundlach said he had “very little confidence” about Trump in 2016, when he took a fist seriously taking Trump’s long-shot candidacy Bhara was one of the people.

Gundlach has previously shared his views on the election, but in a conversation with a famous economist, Rosenberg, he also weighed on the prospects for the economy if Washington is not able to deliver a large financial aid package. “The economy is already decaying, but it will be a disaster,” he said. “When you use such blunt instruments, such as money sprays, the effects for the economy are quite disparate. There is a big shock, but then there are aftershocks. ”

Perhaps more ominous than any of the results he expects for the next year or more, however, Gundlach has a slightly longer-term outlook.

Can America Lose Faith With Democracy? “People are strongly committed to the concept of democracy, and yet China has created a better infrastructure under broader development and totalitarianism,” Gundlach said. “What are we doing when our results are poor?” Is it possible that we can change in that regard? Yes it’s possible. I think we are going to see a lot of change in the next six years. He said that breaking the US into more than one country could also be involved.

This is a really good analog of how Gundlach feels about the financial markets.

“We are moving away from the paradigm we have been in for the last decade or so,” he said, calling Pimco a “new normal”: 2-2.5% GDP growth, stagnant inflation, and very little market fluctuations. -Extension.

“2017 was the biggest ever stock market. It became so coherent that a narrative developed that the market had changed structurally. There was a statement that VIX VIX,
-2.34%
Will not go above 15 again. “

The VIX, or Cboe Volatility Index, measures the expected volatility for the S&P 500 over the coming 30-day period. It was near 37 late Monday, 19 above its long-term average.

Now, Gundlach said, “I think we’re going to go into an area that has fat tails.” He said that skytracheting inflation is only a possibility of disintegration or outright deflation.

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“I hate TMUBMUSD30Y for a long time,
1.622%,
But I think you own something, and in an unholy environment, you want your portfolio to be that hedge, ”he said.

What’s more, as the dollar DXY
-0.17%
Weak Gold GLD,
+ 0.97%
Will also provide a good defense. And equaled SPX after US outperformance,
+ 1.23%
For the past decade, emerging markets – particularly India – have been a better place to put money than the US or Europe, which Gundlach called “bad demographics, can’t run very well, and another Brexit.” – Unsafe for type results “.

Rosenberg Research, launched a few weeks before the epidemic-induced lockdown began, has hosted a number of such webcasts for customers, with plans for this in the coming weeks.

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