- Dr. Anthony Fauci was on Friday hearing on a hearing in a House subcommittee with Rep. Jim Jordan on whether the government should clamp down on protests to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
- “I am not in a position to determine how the government can force,” Fossey said, “You should stay away from the crowd, no matter where the crowd is.”
- Jordan repeatedly tried to get Fauci to say that the government should limit the protests, but Fauci refused, saying what the government should or should not do.
- “I don’t understand what you are asking me as a public health officer to know who should be arrested or not,” Fauci said. “That’s not my position. You can ask me as much as you want, and I’m not going to answer it.”
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Dr. Anthony Fauci and Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan got into a heated back-and-forth on Friday during a hearing on the novel Coronovirus at the House Correctum.
Jordan, one of President Donald Trump’s biggest attack dogs on Capitol Hill, repeatedly asked Fauci to ask if widespread protests helped spread COVID-19.
Fauci said that in general, large crowds, especially those not wearing masks, contribute to high infection and transmission rates.
“Should the government limit protests?” Jordan asked.
“I don’t think it’s relevant,” Fauci said, “I’m not in a position to determine what the government can do in a tremendous way.”
“You make all kinds of recommendations,” Jordan pressed Fauci.
He said that state governments were limiting people attending church services and asked Fauci, “Is there a world where the constitution says that you can oppose a First Amendment Liberty, are opposing, other But, practicing your faith? “
“I’m not doing anyone a favor,” Fauci said. “I’m just making a statement that is a broad statement, to avoid any kind of congestion, no matter where you are, because it leads to acquisition and transmission. And I don’t judge a mob from any other crowd. When you’re in the crowd, especially if you’re not wearing a mask, that motivates the spread. “
Jordan said, “I saw people going out during a church service and did not harm police officers or buildings, but we know it has been in Portland for 63 days, nine weeks.” Cruelty in the city since the death of George Floyd on Memorial Day. Several demonstrations erupted in violence after federal law-enforcement agents used tear gas, rubber bullets and other materials to disperse the protesters.
“There is no limit to the protest,” Jordan said, but “you can’t go to church on Sunday.”
“I don’t know how many times I can answer,” Fausi replied. “I’m not going to limit anything.”
Jordan pushed back, stating that Fauci “considered a lot of things.”
“You should stay away from the crowd, no matter where the crowd is,” Fauci said.
“The government has barred people from going to work,” Jordan said, citing reports about two people who were arrested after reopening their gyms. He said, “Do you see inconsistencies, Dr. Fausi though?”
Fauci said that “there was no inconsistency.” Jordan replied, “You are allowed to protest – millions of people a day, in a crowd, shouting, shouting – but you try to run your business, you get arrested?”
Fauci, who was becoming increasingly frustrated, said: “I don’t understand what you’re asking me, as a public-health officer, to find out who should be arrested.” . This is not my position. You may ask. I want as much as I want, and I am not going to answer it. “
Jordan then claimed that Fauci had said that the protests increased the spread of the virus, but Fauci pushed back. “I said crowd,” he said. “I didn’t say specifically – I didn’t say protest.”
“So the protest does not increase the spread of the virus?” Jordan said.
“I didn’t say that,” Fauci said. “You’re putting words in my mouth.”
He said: “I can tell you that crowds are known, especially when you don’t have a mask, to enhance acquisition and broadcast, no matter how crowded that is.”
-Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) 31 July 2020
The US Coronovirus death rate this week crossed 151,000, the highest in any country. Asked how other countries managed to get their COVID-19 outbreak under control, Fauci said that when the epidemic started, countries in Europe and Asia closed 95% of their economies while the US Only 50% off.
During the hearing, South Carolina Rep. Jim Clibb displayed a graphic showing a spike in cases in the US compared to cases in Europe, in which Trump wished.
Trump tweeted, “Please tell someone that Congressman Clyburn, who has no clue that he signs more CASES for America than Europe, is because we are compared to any other country in the world.” I don’t do much testing. “
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 31 July 2020
But many public-health officials and scientific experts have said that while the US has rapidly expanded its testing and contact-tracing capacity, new cases alone do not account for the increase.
Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, wrote in The Washington Post last month.
“They tell us to the contrary – that each of these states needs to do even more testing to detect infection – followed by more rigorous contact tracing and isolation.”