Epic’s arguments against Apple don’t sit well with the judge

In summary: Epic takes Apple to court, arguing that Apple uses its app store in a competitive manner. However, US District Judge Yvonne Rogers does not seem to be persuaded by Epic’s arguments.

After deliberately failing Apple’s in-app payment policies, Epic sued Apple, alleging anti-competitive practices. Both companies appeared in the hearing on Monday through Zoom. However, US District Court Judge Yvonne Rogers was not particularly pleased with Epic’s legal arguments, according to a CNN report.

In particular, Judge Rogers disagreed with Epic’s argument that Apple violates Apple’s conflicting laws by requiring the app to use its app-paid payment system to be listed in the App Store.

“Walled gardens have existed for decades,” the judge said. “Nintendo had a boundary wall.” Soni has a boundary wall. Microsoft has a boundary wall. Apple’s work is not very different … It is hard to ignore the economics of the industry, which is what you are asking me to do. ”

Epic’s ultimate goal is to use its own launcher or at least Apple’s (and Google’s) 30% cut through Apple Payments to use its own payment system. However, Apple has argued that this can cause security issues. It was not a security threat, Epic said, as it is a well-established company and business partner for Apple. Judge Rogers again disagreed.

“You did something, you lied about the lapse because you were no further. This is the security issue. This is the security issue! “

“You did something, you lied about the lapse because you were no further. This is the security issue. This is the security issue! Rogers said. “There are a lot of people in the public who consider you people to be the heroes that you did, but it’s still not honest.”

The battle between Apple and Epic has been entertaining. To save face, the two sides are throwing corporate mud at each other. Epic hosted a Fortnite tournament that rewarded the winners with expensive technology – other than Apple products. Apple prohibited Epic Games from using Apple’s single sign-in system.

Apple’s feud with Epic extends to other developers as well. Spotify, Epic, Deezer, Protonmail, and other developers have formed the “Alliance for App Fairness”, which advocates “freedom of choice and fair competition in the application ecosystem”. Even Microsoft is fighting with Apple to allow game-streaming services like xCloud and Stadia on the App Store.

Monday’s hearing settled nothing about returning to the App Store, though a decision is forthcoming. Judge Rogers recommended a jury trial “to understand what real people think.”

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