“Real Time” host Bill Maher and television personality Sharon Osbourne exploit the culture of cancellation following their controversial departure from CBS’s daytime talk show “The Talk.”
During the Friday night interview, Maher lamented how everyone today appears to be “a snitch,” but also confronted Osbourne over allegations that he used derogatory language about former “Talk” co-hosts.
“We don’t tolerate any foul language anywhere, but I’m just saying, first of all, we’re talking about four women,” Maher said. “I know that men are dogs and men are dogs …”
“And we’re bitches,” Osbourne chimed in. “And that’s the way it is, that’s the way it is. We’re going to say, ‘Jesus, did you see what I was wearing?’ And then you say, ‘Oh hi, you look great.’ You know, we’re bitches and that’s the way it is. And this has brought it all out. “
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Osbourne told Maher that he “never” used the insults alleged by his former “Talk” co-host Leah Remini, who claimed that Osbourne referred to Julie Chen as a “wonton” and “slanted eyes” and called Sara Gilbert a “p — – lick” and “eat fish”.
He insisted that those terms “are not in my vocabulary.”
“It’s unhappy ladies,” Osbourne said.
Maher suggested that any dispute Osbourne may have had with his co-hosts may not represent his “prime.”
“We can’t judge everyone by their worst moment,” Maher told him later. “Maybe you lost your cool.”
But she criticized the idea that Osbourne needed to “re-educate” herself rather than simply offer a sincere apology for any offense she may have caused.
“What if ‘I shouldn’t do that, I won’t do it again,'” he said. “I mean, you issued an apology for this and it was like, I read it with words like, ‘I’m going to re-educate myself.’ No, we could all do better, of course … but this idea and culture now that people need to ‘re-educate’ herself, indoctrinate herself …
“Sorry I’m 65, you’re 68. I know who I am! I don’t need re-education,” Maher continued. “Do you need re-education? 68, you’ve been all over the world, you’re married to a rock star, you’ve been to all the A-listers and rock ‘n’ roll. Like, f — ’em. As necessary , ‘Race, tell me everything.’ It’s a fantasy. “
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On the subject of the cancellation culture, Osbourne insisted “I’m going to be fine” but expressed concern for others who cannot defend themselves.
“I’m a fighter, I’m fine, I’m doing fine … but what about people who are cut to their knees and can’t afford to ‘take lessons’ on what is politically correct and how? To talk to people? “she said. “What is going on with them?
“It’s not fair, it’s not fair because it’s not about being racist, it’s about maybe not knowing what’s right and waking up to your language that day because it changes from day to day – what’s right and what’s not. . “
Maher and Osbourne then piled on Robin DiAngelo’s book, “White Fragility,” which bills itself as a manual for teaching whites how to be anti-racist, but which critics say only fuels more racism.
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“You have two options if you are white, or you are racist or racist and you don’t know it. I don’t agree with that,” Maher said. “I know who raised me, I know who my friends are. I know how I have treated people.”
“And this is, no race can be covered,” Osbourne told Maher. “You can’t … there are good and bad things in all races. They are not covered.”