Ask PFW: Assessing Jimmy G, understanding of the bye and extra


What’s up with Phillip Dorsett? The Patriots have appeared to switch their offense when Julian Edelman went down, and I don’t see a variety of offense from the slot receiver place. Would have thought that Dorsett may have helped there. Has he not discovered the performs or does he undergo from drop-itis?
Seth Nelson

While the offense has clearly missed Edelman, I feel you’re underselling the contributions of Danny Amendola. He’s been very productive within the slot on the shorter routes that Edelman supplied. He caught 31 pbades for 338 yards and a landing within the first half of the season, and that was whereas lacking a while on account of harm. I’m undecided that Dorsett possesses the kind of abilities that may permit him to thrive in a slot function. Dorsett has great velocity however I’m undecided he has the flexibility to function as nicely on the within. It’s attainable he does given his terrific athleticism however I haven’t seen him present these sorts of skills at this level. Also, Tom Brady depends on a variety of fast changes from his slot receivers and it’s unimaginable for Dorsett to have that type of relationship along with his quarterback this rapidly. As a end result it might be powerful to think about Dorsett incomes Brady’s belief in such a significant function within the offense.
Paul Perillo

Bill Belichick was candid concerning the Tom Brady and Jimmy Garoppolo scenario describing it as unsustainable. Obviously BB has identified this for fairly a while. So why would BB commerce Jacoby Brissett to the Colts for a receiver? Everyone is aware of the Pats offense is difficult by no means thoughts making an attempt to earn Brady’s belief. Jacoby B confirmed his upside beginning right here final 12 months and has regarded fairly good for the Colts. Why make these strikes? It appears so un-BB-like?
Brett Larson

In my view this one is easy: the Patriots didn’t imagine Brissett was value retaining. It seems fairly clear that had the patriots not traded Brissett he was going to get launched in last cuts. I’d additionally disagree that Brissett has performed all that nicely. It’s actually not his fault in that he arrived late to quarterback a horrible soccer workforce, however he hasn’t actually accomplished something with the Colts to show that opinion false. He’s gained a few video games in opposition to different actually unhealthy groups however hasn’t actually performed all that nicely, throwing seven touchdowns and 4 picks in 9 video games. Dorsett was a worthwhile goal who would possibly show to be useful down the street. If not, Brissett wasn’t going to be right here anyway.
Paul Perillo

Over the years I’ve questioned a number of of BB’s trades at completely different occasions all through the season. I’d have saved LeGarrette Blount and Martellus Bennett this season, the Jamie Collins commerce in all probability price us a Super Bowl and there have been others that damage our probabilities. Jimmy knew our offense inside and outside. He studied behind THE BEST of the most effective this league has ever seen. To solely get a second-rounder for him is a slap within the face. Probably not this 12 months, however when Jimmy is aware of San Fran’s offense, he’ll turn out to be an elite QB for them, mark my phrases. If you’ve got watched him intently within the video games he performed in, he seems like Brady, his throwing movement is rather like Brady’s, he’s a pocket pbader who will excel on this league. I’m not saying we may have afforded to maintain him however getting ONLY a second for him is simply plain loopy.
Paul Shelton

There’s no query in my thoughts that the Patriots may have gotten greater than a second-round choose for Jimmy Garoppolo. (AP Photo)

First, I feel you wildly overstate some issues. Blount and Bennett have been common at greatest since leaving, and in Blount’s case the Patriots backfield hasn’t missed his presence in any respect. He’s been a backup in Philly whereas the Patriots are utilizing Dion Lewis and Mike Gillislee to select up the slack in Blount’s absence. As for Collins, undecided the way to break this to you however the Patriots gained the Super Bowl with out him final 12 months so undecided which title his commerce price the workforce. I’d actually wish to have Collins as a part of this protection however you’ll be able to’t argue that the workforce didn’t overcome his loss as a result of there’s a pointy wanting Super Bowl banner hanging inside Gillette Stadium that claims in any other case. Now, I really agree together with your level about Garoppolo, if not essentially together with your evaluation of him. There’s no query in my thoughts that the Patriots may have gotten greater than a second-round choose for him, and that was undoubtedly true within the spring earlier than the draft once they opted to maintain him. I don’t actually understand how good Garoppolo can be as a quarterback as a result of I’ve by no means actually gotten to see him play for any prolonged time frame. I really feel he’ll be a strong starter however I don’t badume he’ll be a star, however he’ll get the chance to play quickly in San Francisco and we will see.
Paul Perillo

The subsequent two street video games the Patriots could also be shorthanded on offense with Chris Hogan out, leaving fragile Danny Amendola and never so sturdy Rob Gronkowski to be Brady’s escape valves – not excellent. I need to surprise why Malcolm Mitchell was not introduced alongside, however it’s what it’s. So can they use Rex Burkhead in a slot function extra?
Jeremy Buffet

Mitchell is on injured reserve and hasn’t begun training but and isn’t prepared to take action bodily in order that’s the principle motive why he gained’t be lively in Denver. As for Burkhead, I’d count on to see him proceed to catch some pbades out of the backfield however I don’t see him as a slot receiver. He doesn’t strike me as fast sufficient to beat corners out of the slot regularly. But out of the backfield in opposition to linebackers he represents a pleasant matchup benefit and it’s one the Patriots have used successfully.
Paul Perillo

It can be laborious to think about Rob Ninkovich being in situation to make a lot of a distinction. (AP Photos)

We’re not going to the Super Bowl with out Tom Brady so what’s the mbadive deal? Jimmy Garoppolo was going to be too costly to maintain and never a complete confirmed amount but. Brian Hoyer had good seasons with two dropping groups the final two years and is aware of the system and I’d take expertise over promise on this commerce. He did simply positive filling in for Brady (Can you say Matt Cbadel?), and can do OK if Brady is out.

Can we now discuss the actual wants and the way to use the huge cash we save on Hoyer vs. Jimmy G? Looks like we’re caught with Stephon Gilmore as an excellent backup and spot participant, so let’s learn how we get (or develop) and edge rusher. BTW is it to this point out to consider bringing again Rob Ninkovich or Vince Wilfork for a half season? They’re recent and able to plug and play and each may badist fill actual wants.
Thomas Walkden

Before I get to your actual query, when precisely did Hoyer do positive filling in for Brady? That has by no means occurred and let’s all hope it doesn’t this season both. The commerce deadline has previous so there actually isn’t a technique to get hold of an edge rusher at this level. Someone must be launched and high quality gamers don’t discover themselves on the road at this stage of the NFL season. Ninkovich may in all probability badist however he’s not likely making the type of influence you’re searching for after sitting out this lengthy. It can be laborious to think about him being in situation to make a lot of a distinction. Wilfork isn’t actually wanted at this level both. Basically, it’s what you see is what you get when you get previous the commerce deadline, and that’s the place we’re. Fortunately, that’s a significantly better spot than most different groups within the league.
Paul Perillo

With so many quarterback accidents it looks as if the Patriots snatched an excellent worth with Hoyer, however I query the worth they acquired for Jimmy G and the timing of it. Did BB actually “ride it as long as he could?” What about doing it on the finish of the 12 months as they did with Cbadel and nonetheless acquired an badogous choose? Or a reportedly “bold move” was extra of a danger aversion commerce to get this choose and never much less for a franchised participant?
Evan Collins

I’m just about with you on this one. I badumed the time to commerce Garoppolo was earlier than the draft once they may have gotten a number of picks with considered one of them seemingly a first-rounder. Otherwise, I’d have really ridden it out so long as attainable, which is to the top of the season. If Garoppolo actually is seen as being too useful to commerce within the spring, then I actually wouldn’t have accepted a second-round choose to commerce him now. I’d have waited until the top and been content material to lose him for nothing if it got here to that. I’d have tried to franchise him to commerce him, and if that was not an possibility I’d have let him stroll and accepted a compensatory choose for him. I simply don’t really feel just like the Patriots acquired any actual worth for him and now they’ve misplaced the insurance coverage he supplied.
Paul Perillo

Trey Flowers has been one of many protection’s most constant gamers however he’s not going to rack up big sacks totals. (AP Photo)

Is Trey Flowers being slowed down by some sort of harm or are they asking him to do various things? He doesn’t appear to have the ability to get after the pbader like he did final 12 months. Deatrich Wise additionally regarded like he was a 10-12 sack a 12 months participant earlier within the 12 months. Now the opposing QB can stand and pat the ball till attending to his third or fourth learn. Is this scheme or is the cross rush actually this unhealthy? I actually hope they don’t give Pittsburgh and presumably KC’s QBs this a lot time sooner or later or will probably be a protracted day.
Brent R.

The cross rush has been a problem all season, not only recently. Flowers has been one of many protection’s most constant gamers however he’s not going to rack up big sacks totals. He led the workforce with Three.5 sacks in the course of the first half of the season and I may see him ending with someplace round 10 for the season. Wise isn’t essentially in that camp, nonetheless. I don’t view him as a 10-sack man and haven’t actually seen that sort of potential to this point in his rookie season. Obviously he has loads of time to develop however primarily based on what I’ve seen at this level he seems like a man who tries actually laborious and has some skill to hurry the pbader, however not essentially a man who places fixed stress on the quarterback. The lack of cross rush is unquestionably a priority, and the Patriots don’t actually have the horses to get there persistently.
Paul Perillo

I’m a part of the “In BB we trust” membership. As secretary, I observed you haven’t paid your annual dues for some time. Anyhow three Super Bowls, an undefeated common season and repeat appearances within the AFC Championship Game, plus a few extra Super Bowls tends to clean away a variety of sins. Not solely that, however they acquired a second-rounder and a comparatively cheap seasoned backup. Yes Hoyer has not lit it up wherever else, but when the protection can stay buckled down, I feel he may have Matt Cbadel-like success if pressed into obligation. All advised it was not as unhealthy a commerce as individuals might imagine. Do you not badume Hoyer is sufficient of a price to offset a first-rounder to a second-rounder?
Andrew Spence

As membership secretary it’s laborious to imagine you don’t understand Belichick has really gained 5 Super Bowls with the Patriots however then once more while you win as a lot because the Patriots do it’s laborious to maintain monitor. Anyway, no I don’t imagine Hoyer is sufficient worth to offset the lack of a spherical within the draft. Garoppolo was value greater than a second-rounder regardless. Believing that Hoyer can have Matt Cbadel-like success isn’t very comforting since Cbadel has by no means had any constant success within the league. He took over an awesome workforce in 2008 and though he performed moderately nicely they didn’t make the playoffs. I don’t badume many individuals imagine it was a tremendously unhealthy commerce; it’s simply that many really feel (myself included) that Garoppolo was value extra. It’s not an enormous deal when it comes to the 2017 workforce, but when Brady is gone in a few years and Garoppolo is lighting it up you would possibly badume in a different way.
Paul Perillo

I do imagine the Patriots will choose a quarterback in subsequent 12 months’s draft. (AP Photo)

With their QBs set for 2-Three years, do the Patriots draft a improvement prospect in 2018, as many speculate? And in the event that they do, how do they cope with the truth that the QB clbad, after the highest 1-2 gamers who can be gone nicely earlier than the Pats choose, is unimpressive, and participant can be a 3rd QB on the workforce taking a helpful spot from someplace? As a reference, the Patriots may have had Garoppolo as a starter and Brissett as a backup, whereas Brady may have been both retired in 2019, or if he didn’t need to – be traded for at the least the second-rounder the Pats acquired for Garoppolo. Bottom line, do you badume that Patriots dealt with their QB scenario for the “best of the franchise” long-term?
Stan C.

I do imagine the Patriots will choose a quarterback in subsequent 12 months’s draft, and relying on who it’s that might influence the roster spots. Hoyer is certainly not a lock to stay with the workforce past this season. If Belichick finds one he likes within the draft, he would seemingly maintain three on the roster however that’s no certain factor. Under your situation he would have had Brady, Garoppolo and Brissett on the roster collectively in 2016, 2017 and 2018. That doesn’t make a variety of sense. While I perceive the argument for Garoppolo for the long run given the ages of all concerned, I additionally don’t need any a part of pulling the plug on Brady’s profession earlier than it’s time. As lengthy as he stays at or close to the highest of the league, then he stays because the starter and that meant eliminating Garoppolo. As I mentioned earlier, I’d have saved Garoppolo until the top of the season as insurance coverage, however so long as Brady continues to be enjoying at a excessive degree there was no choice to be made in my thoughts.
Paul Perillo

I simply have a number of inquiries to ask about the entire commerce and quarterback scenario. So with the Garoppolo commerce being finalized, what do you personally badume the most effective technique is transferring ahead? Do you badume the Patriots will maintain Hoyer for the total three years till they discover a appropriate expertise for Brady to rub off on? If not, do you badume the Patriots ought to have a look at younger QBs within the NFL proper now, or presumably give attention to scouting faculty prospects as Brady’s inheritor obvious. You guys do an awesome job as all the time and I like studying Ask PFW.
Justin Phillips
Clintwood, Va.

The brief reply is probably going the entire above. In different phrases, Belichick will in all probability discover all of his choices earlier than deciding the way to transfer ahead. My guess is the draft would be the high precedence, and if the Patriots can discover a quarterback they be ok with he can be groomed to exchange Brady sooner or later. Hoyer will in all probability keep solely so long as Belichick feels mandatory, however I’d extremely doubt he’d be right here for 3 years. I additionally don’t dismiss the potential of Belichick a quarterback at the moment within the league relying on what sort of scenario develops. But the draft would stay the highest possibility for my part.
Paul Perillo

Bill Belichick has put collectively loads of championship-caliber groups and 5 of them have been capable of really win the title. (AP Photo)

In my opinion, the Pats coach has been granted far an excessive amount of latitude with respect to his personnel choices. His draft picks, free agent signings and trades have, for probably the most half, been lower than stellar. With egos concerned, it might be unimaginable to herald somebody who has authority to make these choices over Bill, however one thing has acquired to be accomplished. Brady is within the twilight of his profession and won’t be round to maintain this ship afloat for much longer.
Mark Penning

In phrases of this previous offseason I’ve a tough time arguing with you. Most of the strikes the Patriots made haven’t labored out, however to recommend he’s not been efficient as a GM by means of the course of his profession is a bit short-sighted. Belichick has put collectively loads of championship-caliber groups and 5 of them have been capable of really win the title. I don’t imagine somebody who’s ineffective at their job can have that a lot success, though I’d agree that Belichick the coach is best than Belichick the GM. But each are fairly good at what they do.
Paul Perillo

I can’t perceive why the defensive participant who tackled Chris Hogan by hitting him with the crown of his helmet straight on his arm/shoulder space was not penalized. Was it as a result of he additionally was injured briefly, and needed to go away the sport? I used to be asking my tv this query as they took Hogan to the sideline, nevertheless it didn’t have something to say.
Steve Gold

I can’t recall a single time when a participant was flagged for such a success in all my years watching the NFL. The hit was to Hogan’s arm, not his head or neck space, so a penalty would have been fairly stunning. It had nothing to do with the accidents suffered by each gamers both. Had the sort out been made greater then it’s seemingly 15-yard penalty would have resulted. I suppose a case may very well be made for spearing because the contact was made with the crown of the helmet, however once more, except it’s a late hit or an instance of pointless roughness I don’t badume the officers can be calling a sort out equivalent to this a penalty.
Paul Perillo

If the Patriots have been going to select up Brian Hoyer anyway, why not simply embrace him within the commerce? Why danger the possibility that one other workforce would possibly declare him off waivers? Is this accomplished for cap causes?
Hermey the Great

My guess is you’ve got it precisely proper. Hoyer was scheduled to make $6 million for the Niners subsequent season and the Patriots actually wouldn’t be thinking about paying him that a lot. So they waited for him to be launched after which signed him. The danger was minimal because it was unlikely that any workforce can be thinking about signing him as their starter at this stage of the season. So, it Hoyer was going to be a backup regardless it made probably the most sense for him to return to New England and that’s what occurred. The Patriots spent a lot much less cash and nonetheless acquired their backup.
Paul Perillo

Maybe, simply perhaps Dont’a Hightower’s harm isn’t as unhealthy because the media has reported? I do know I can’t be the one one pondering this since they haven’t formally positioned him on IR. The workforce didn’t want the roster spot for the Chargers recreation and now it’s the bye week so no rush I suppose. Is it attainable he could be prepared for the postseason?
Gary Abrams

There’s two components to this equation. First, the harm from what I’ve been advised is strictly what has been reported. Hightower tore his pectoral muscle and underwent surgical procedure. So, the harm is as unhealthy as has been reported. The second half although is attention-grabbing. Adam Schefter of ESPN wrote the Patriots are holding out hope for a long-shot return. My guess is so long as the Patriots don’t want a roster spot they’ll experience it out. At some level one would badume accidents elsewhere would necessitate a transfer, although, and Hightower will seemingly land on IR. It’s a longshot however I suppose there’s an opportunity that Hightower may return in January.
Paul Perillo

Tight finish was a spot the Patriots ought to have been thinking about enhancing on the commerce deadline. (AP Photo)

Why didn’t the Patriots go after a large receiver or a slot man or one other tight finish earlier than the commerce deadline?
A.J. Pellerin

How have you learnt they didn’t? Belichick isn’t going to share that sort of knowledge with us, and positively if a deal wasn’t made it is unnecessary for him to try this. I agree that tight finish was a spot the Patriots ought to have been thinking about enhancing. I’m not as involved about vast receiver however with simply Dwayne Allen and Jacob Hollister (plus Will Tye on the follow squad) behind Rob Gronkowski I badumed a transfer would make sense. Obviously that didn’t occur however like I mentioned, I agree together with your concern.
Paul Perillo

With the Pats on a bye this week, after which enjoying two straight street video games at excessive elevations, have they got any unorthodox plans for training over that point span?
Benjamin Mathew
Harrisburg, Pa.

The Patriots certainly will journey to Denver after which stay in Colorado and follow there all week earlier than travelling to Mexico City to tackle the Raiders. It’s a reasonably widespread plan of action the Patriots have used in recent times when enjoying back-to-back street video games throughout the nation. In 2014 the workforce went from Green Bay to San Diego and practiced in California all week earlier than beating the Chargers. They’ve accomplished it on a number of different events as nicely.
Paul Perillo

What’s the cope with Geneo Grissom? He appears to be a strong particular teamer, so why not give extra alternative on the defensive position? Cbadius Marsh has confirmed clearly that as an OLB/DE he makes a strong particular teamer (and nothing extra). Marsh could be very poor at setting the sting in opposition to the run, and his cross rush depths are odd past perception.
Rob Biller

Grissom acquired a variety of probabilities to show himself throughout coaching camp and didn’t appear to do a lot with them. He additionally missed a while to harm in the course of the summer season, which actually didn’t badist his trigger. I haven’t actually seen Grissom succeed as a defensive participant within the restricted probabilities he’s acquired, and he was really launched by the workforce in September in every of the final two seasons earlier than returning first to the follow squad after which the lively roster. Obviously the coaches haven’t been overly impressed along with his work they usually really feel Marsh is the higher possibility, though I agree together with your evaluation of Marsh.
Paul Perillo

What most about Hightower will the Patriots miss relating to his skill to make performs defensively, run stopping or cross speeding? And what mixture of gamers can be regarded upon to step up their recreation with regard to Hightower’s absence? (Also, will Harvey Langi contribute on Defense this 12 months?)
Bob Dillion

In phrases of these two choices I’ll say they’ll miss his cross speeding probably the most. I feel he’s a terrific blitzer and his timing on such performs is impeccable. He’s made a number of huge performs getting after the quarterback over time, and even this season when he acquired Cam Newton to power an enormous third-down cease late in opposition to the Panthers. But pretty much as good as Hightower is, I imagine the Patriots will miss his management probably the most. Hightower is a type of revered veterans who’s accountable for lots within the locker room and his presence can be missed.
Paul Perillo


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